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to fund more spending and it increases the debt?" boehner is getting more cut over the fight over the debt creeling that expires in two months. white house aides think it could backfire, an advisor admitted it would be ugly. telling fox we're about to enter 60 days of nastiness. i'm told the president has not spoken to speaker boehner since last friday when they had the summit of leaders here at the white house. the significance of that is that boehner made absolutely no promise to the president he is going to pass the legislation. let alone even bring it up. bret? >> bret: ed, you know, we talked a little bit about the timeline here. the new congress comes in thursday. at noon. so essentially, this senate bill has an expiration date of thursday at noon. at that point, they have to scrap the effort and start all over again. >> that's right. it's essentially the new fiscal cliff, that deadline. every piece of legislation passed by the house or the senate over the last two years completely expires with this current congress. so you've
to fund more spending and it increases the debt?" boehner is getting more cut over the fight over the debt creeling that expires in two months. white house aides think it could backfire, an advisor admitted it would be ugly. telling fox we're about to enter 60 days of nastiness. i'm told the president has not spoken to speaker boehner since last friday when they had the summit of leaders here at the white house. the significance of that is that boehner made absolutely no promise to the...
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all the spending in afghanistan, a rack, and iran, and nothing was said there. then the democrats had the congress, that everything in obama's first term and had no back on. they just went ahead and let the republicans push them around. they forgot to put them there, as far as the unions, the middle-class. they are not protecting these unions and passing legislation to help them. what is happening is, now you've got what just happened in michigan, right to work. this is not about right to work, it is about busting unions. everyone of those red states have a republican governor who have been pushing this issue and is getting to the point where i think the only thing that will stop all this bickering between parties is term limits. if a president can only serve two terms, then a congressman, senator, can only serve the same amount of terms, and then we will not have this power struggle as far as the republicans against the democrats, because they better do their job because they have a limited amount of time, or they are out. >> mike o'brien of nbc has this week.
all the spending in afghanistan, a rack, and iran, and nothing was said there. then the democrats had the congress, that everything in obama's first term and had no back on. they just went ahead and let the republicans push them around. they forgot to put them there, as far as the unions, the middle-class. they are not protecting these unions and passing legislation to help them. what is happening is, now you've got what just happened in michigan, right to work. this is not about right to work,...
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one way to get the government to spend less is to spend more to stimulate the economy. what obama was trying is serious stimulus to boost the economy. if you think of the federal government that is someone that has to balance its books, that is the obama approach and i think it is a good one. host: lesley from missouri. caller: i helped barack obama become elected. i notice the nation is not behind him. they are not making the money that people at the top are making. when the people at the top try to negotiate will happen for the people at the bottom, there will be a constant setback of growth. when you have politicians not taking care of business, you have more outgrowth then you have income. right now our country has more outgrowth then income. if you don't have that overhead, you end up losing what you have. host: george zornick. guest: a lot of people like to talk about world aid. you could look at the defense budget. many liberals have tried to do that. it appears the defense sequester will be avoided. it is kind of tricky. it is an across-the-board cut. you have t
one way to get the government to spend less is to spend more to stimulate the economy. what obama was trying is serious stimulus to boost the economy. if you think of the federal government that is someone that has to balance its books, that is the obama approach and i think it is a good one. host: lesley from missouri. caller: i helped barack obama become elected. i notice the nation is not behind him. they are not making the money that people at the top are making. when the people at the top...
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>> well, i think that opportunity was missed in the boehner/obama negotiations. there really was no time to do anything except the basics right now. and i think there's a good shot that this will succeed. i think both parties are very conscious of the markets opening tomorrow and the republicans have been through situations where they've voted down big plans and the markets have crashed. so i don't think that john boehner wants that on his head and i think that president obama's planning to blame him if that happens. there as lot of work being done to convince some liberal democrats and conservative republicans, because republicans in voting for this would have to vote for a tax rate increase which a lot of them have signed pledges saying they would never do. it's a big step but i think they'll take it. >> david, looking at house speaker john boehner a lot of people thought he ended up looking bad when that plan b failed. does he have the votes for this and/or could his speakership be in trouble? >> i don't know that his speakership is in trouble. during a year a
>> well, i think that opportunity was missed in the boehner/obama negotiations. there really was no time to do anything except the basics right now. and i think there's a good shot that this will succeed. i think both parties are very conscious of the markets opening tomorrow and the republicans have been through situations where they've voted down big plans and the markets have crashed. so i don't think that john boehner wants that on his head and i think that president obama's planning...
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obama said he'd have preferred a bigger deal that included spending cuts. >> a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way, that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way so that we can put all this behind us and just focusing on growing our economy. >> reporter: the president said with this conference, by which he meant this partisan conference, that's too much to hope for. early this morning after the senate vote he released a statement that read in part, this agreement is the right thing to do for our country, and the house should pass it without delay. we'll wait and see if that actually happens today, rick. rick: okay. so if republicans compromised on spending cuts and tax hikes for the wealthiest, what did the president give up? >> reporter: well, his compromise was in raising the income level protected from tax hikes from 250 to $450,000 a year for families, and more importantly, making the tax cuts permanent. that is something president bush wasn't able to do back in the ea
obama said he'd have preferred a bigger deal that included spending cuts. >> a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way, that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way so that we can put all this behind us and just focusing on growing our economy. >> reporter: the president said with this conference, by which he meant this partisan conference, that's too much to hope for....
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it's just disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted to dole with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. now, the house reconvenes at midday but lawmakers say, frank, they plan to study this bill hard before they take a vote. they say the senate has had months to get a bill passed and they are not going to rush to get anything done. >> there is word, tara, that some republican lawmakers are upset about something the president said. could that effect support of the bill? >> reporter: it might. president obama chastised in his speech congress for taking too long to get the deal done. but he also threw something out at republicans saying if they think that spending cuts is the only thing that's going to reduce the deficit, they have another thing coming and that basically references the $16.5 trillion in debt which is the next issue on the table. a lot of republicans were offended and it could antagonize enough o
it's just disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted to dole with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. now, the house reconvenes at midday but lawmakers say, frank, they plan to study this bill hard before they take a vote. they say the senate has had months to get a bill passed and they are not...
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. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the formula for how we solve this thing, then they've got another think coming. >> that midday news conference didn't go over well with a lot of republicans, and they said that the president's sometimes mocking tone, as they felt it was, could hurt the fiscal cliff deal in the house. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading ridiculing of republicans exercise. >> let's bring in democratic strategist and former edwards communications director chris ka fiance and republican strategist and
. >>> looking beyond the senate deal, president obama is warning republicans that if they want future spending cuts, they're going to have to provide more tax revenue as well. >> if republicans think that i will finish the job of deficit reduction through spending cuts alone -- and you hear that sometimes coming from them, that sort of after today we're just going to try to shove only spending cuts down -- well, shove spending cuts at us. if they think that's going to be the...
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that we're not where we need to be on revenue is disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted a bargain that dealt with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. and the house reconvenes by midday today. a vote could also come today. >> tara, a lot of republicans weren't happy with the president's speech yesterday. is there any indication that that could affect the vote in the house? >> well, president obama during that speech criticized congress for taking too long to come up with this deal. he also laid the groundwork for another problem that's coming and that's basically burrough -- upping the country's burrough limit. republicans will no doubt try to use upping that in ex-kang for spending cuts. and to which the president said, they have another thing coming if they think that's going to be the case. spending cuts alone are not going to be able to reduce the country's deficit. so we have that coming. senator john mc
that we're not where we need to be on revenue is disgusting. >> reporter: president obama wanted a bargain that dealt with taxes and spending cuts at the same time. >> but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner has not yet publicly endorsed the deal. and the house reconvenes by midday today. a vote could also come today. >> tara, a lot of republicans weren't happy with the president's...
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the people voted obama back in. host: the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, has been negotiating with the vice president joe biden to come to some sort of agreement. what you make of that? caller: i'm talking about what mitch mcconnell said in the beginning. he did not want to work with this president. the want it to see him fail. they're hurting the american people by not helping obama. obama is good for the country, but people that listen to rush limbaugh, sarah palin, and fox news, that is why this country is going down like this. host: let me get your thoughts on president obama as a negotiator. what do you think? caller: he has reached out and showed an olive branch dejon banner ever since he has been in. -- john boehner ever since he has been in. president obama has tried to work with these people to get things done, and they will not work with him. host: let's hear from ron in appleton, wisconsin. caller: i woke up this morning, and i am an engineer, an african-american. i have been blessed with a good income
the people voted obama back in. host: the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, has been negotiating with the vice president joe biden to come to some sort of agreement. what you make of that? caller: i'm talking about what mitch mcconnell said in the beginning. he did not want to work with this president. the want it to see him fail. they're hurting the american people by not helping obama. obama is good for the country, but people that listen to rush limbaugh, sarah palin, and fox news, that is...
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has president obama showed when his back support against the wall, he will cave? >> the president has been very strong in these negotiations. you have to keep in mind the republicans really did not want to tax more wealthy people in our society one dime. not a dime, and he's stuck with that. i consider myself a liberal and proud of it. we did not want an increase in t the age with regard to medicaid and cpi with regard to social security benefits. and the president was strong there, and i think he'll continue to be strong, and, you know, i notice a different president since he won this election, i think he is working very closely with congress, and, again, i -- often i'm -- i'm critical for congress for not coming to the table and compromising. critical for trends for saying my way or the highway. but at some point, we've got to take care of a lot of people like folks in my district, who through this deal will at least be able to get unemployment benefits, and a number of others that mean something to middle class families. >> are we setting up ourselves for fight
has president obama showed when his back support against the wall, he will cave? >> the president has been very strong in these negotiations. you have to keep in mind the republicans really did not want to tax more wealthy people in our society one dime. not a dime, and he's stuck with that. i consider myself a liberal and proud of it. we did not want an increase in t the age with regard to medicaid and cpi with regard to social security benefits. and the president was strong there, and i...
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refuses to concede that social security, medicare, medicaid are driving future spending and deficits. so when republicans make concessions on taxes they get little in return." are you set up for more confrontatio confrontation. >> i think we are set up for more confrontatioconfrontation. on september 30th, when the clock strikes, we'll be in the same position. the president has made concessions, put on the table reforms to the entitlement program. last year, we were close to a grand bargain. $4 trillion deficit reduction that would include major entitlement reforms. the president has done what he needs to do that's unfair criticism. >> what is lacking, congressman? what is the problem? it is a popular con serb tuf and -- conservative reefrain. where is the impasse in terms of being able to say here are what our priorities are as a party. >> the reason there hasn't been a budget since 2009 because of the filibuster rule in the house. the house under both democratic and republic lay can leadership been able to pass things. we haven't had the ability to come together. this wasn't necess
refuses to concede that social security, medicare, medicaid are driving future spending and deficits. so when republicans make concessions on taxes they get little in return." are you set up for more confrontatio confrontation. >> i think we are set up for more confrontatioconfrontation. on september 30th, when the clock strikes, we'll be in the same position. the president has made concessions, put on the table reforms to the entitlement program. last year, we were close to a grand...
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but the other big obama prize is no spending cuts. i mean, a few republicans are going to give in on this position you have held for decades, what are you going to get in return for? remember that great "wall street journal" article where john boehner says, i'm putting all this revenue on the table. what am i going to get? barak obama says, you get nothing. i get it for free. that's what happened. >> brian: that's what happened so far. it's amazing because if the president actually wanted to balance the budget, he would be doing cuts. it doesn't seem like he's playing for the same goal as the average american, politics aside. >> we have one side that wants higher taxes and one side that wants lower spending. they're banging into each other. >> brian: thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> steve: happy new year. >> brian: straight ahead, president obama wanted congress to get raises. but most americans think they're doing a very bad job. will lawmakers see more money in their paychecks? there is an update. >> steve: kind of a diplomay
but the other big obama prize is no spending cuts. i mean, a few republicans are going to give in on this position you have held for decades, what are you going to get in return for? remember that great "wall street journal" article where john boehner says, i'm putting all this revenue on the table. what am i going to get? barak obama says, you get nothing. i get it for free. that's what happened. >> brian: that's what happened so far. it's amazing because if the president...
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president obama outlined that yesterday. these tax hikes are not enough for him. that he's going to go after more tax hikes. it's going to be the same discussion. the fact is we're just ceding more and more ground and more and more jobs, by the way, that young people need. so that's one of the things where i think house republicans get it, where at least i mean the majority of our caucus gets it where we're going to stand up against this plan because it's bad for young people, bad for our future, it's bad for the rest of america too. there was a great article in "the washington times" yesterday about why this plan and why plans like this are going to absolutely hurt and bankrupt our generation. i think there's at least a core group of republicans who are actually going to defend that and try to get a real solution done. something that addresses entitlement reform, that doesn't just tax people. this is a tax bill. this just raises taxes. and that's all it's doing. and the fact of the matter is grover norquist, this just shows how little power grover has. grover is
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>> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now, on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor romney at that point was still trying to put together the pieces for his primary just ended. >> why didn't he respond? why didn't they refute the attacks about bain capitol? >> one of the issues was governor romney was just not willing to lend himself money as he was in 2008. there was a perception among his senior staff that he didn't want to be seen as buying the election. so in order for him to have gone toe-to-toe with obama at that point in time he would have had to use his own money and that wasn't even broached in the campaign. >> warner: one of the most fascinating th
>> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now, on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor...
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we've also learned that president obama personally called harry reid and nancy pelosi to ensure that they are on board with this plan. our chuck todd says it is not likely that we would see a deal on that vote before midnight, just on the logistical standpoint the house remains adjourned until tomorrow. mike, what is the latest you're hearing about a possible vote tonight, maybe not before midnight at this point, but sometime during the night? >> yeah, i don't think it will happen before midnight, just too many procedural hoops to jump through, and they haven't even completed writing the bill. vice president joe biden arrived, met with harry reid briefly, and walked into the second floor and into the caucus room where democrats had gathered. joe biden's mention to pitch this deal, to the caucus, one mention, if they're going to bring it up tonight. we talked about the senate and how slow it moves. it can move very fast, when they have unanimous consent, in other words, where every senator says it is okay to move forward. that will be the trick. there will be a lot of senators with a
we've also learned that president obama personally called harry reid and nancy pelosi to ensure that they are on board with this plan. our chuck todd says it is not likely that we would see a deal on that vote before midnight, just on the logistical standpoint the house remains adjourned until tomorrow. mike, what is the latest you're hearing about a possible vote tonight, maybe not before midnight at this point, but sometime during the night? >> yeah, i don't think it will happen before...
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mike mentioned ed that the house, a lot of them got reelected, a lot got elected to spending not the raise taxes. the house is still controlled by republicans so when president obama has his talk about campaigning and run and getting a mandate on raising taxes on the upper tier, these republicans fight back with their own o individual races. >> no doubt about it. and that is why we had this clash. you will remember that right after the election i remember full well that these negotiations which started with the president and speaker boehner, they are are ending now with senator mcconnell and vice president biden but within days aft election speaker boehner sent a letter to the president of the united states saying we just had a status quo election. that was from the speaker. inside the white house they didn't believe it was a status quo election. they believe the president won decisively and did get the mandate. house republicans believe they had a mandate to cut spending and the president believed he had a mandate to raise taxes. they will have the same clash two months from now. no
mike mentioned ed that the house, a lot of them got reelected, a lot got elected to spending not the raise taxes. the house is still controlled by republicans so when president obama has his talk about campaigning and run and getting a mandate on raising taxes on the upper tier, these republicans fight back with their own o individual races. >> no doubt about it. and that is why we had this clash. you will remember that right after the election i remember full well that these negotiations...
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>> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor romney at that point was still trying to put together the pieces for his primary just ended. >> why didn't he respond? why didn't they refute the attacks about bain capitol? >> one of the issues was governor romney was just not willing to lend himself money as he was in 2008. there was a perception among his senior staff that he didn't want to be seen as buying the election. so in order for him to have gone toe-to-toe with obama at that point in time he would have had to use his own money and that wasn't even broached in the campaign. >> warner: one of the most fascinating thi
>> we really think that president obama won the campaign in the spring. and what is key is in the west wing, in late may his advisors basically told him we want to spend the fall's budget right now on a really tough tv assault against romney. and the president had to be convinced by the advisors to do this, and obviously he was thinking financially are we going to have that money in the fall or spend it now it was a risk but one that ultimately paid off for president obama. governor...
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president obama continues his secret drone wars. we spend the hour looking back at the moment and movements that shaped 2012. >> democratic congresswoman gabrielle giffords has announced she will step down this week. she was shot in the head last year in a shooting spree that left six people dead in tucson. >> thank you for your prayers and for giving me the time to recover. i have more work to do on my recovery, so i will do what is best for arizona. i will step down this week. >> iraqis are voicing outrage over the sentencing of the last marines charged in the 2005 massacre of 25 civilians. on tuesday, frank woodrich received no jail time. >> i was expecting the american courts would sentence the person to life in prison. he should appear and confessed to the world that he committed these crimes so that america could show itself as democratic and fair. >> in a dramatic scene yesterday on capitol hill, several democrats walked out of congressional hearings on the contraception rule. carol maloney of new york criticized the panel at
president obama continues his secret drone wars. we spend the hour looking back at the moment and movements that shaped 2012. >> democratic congresswoman gabrielle giffords has announced she will step down this week. she was shot in the head last year in a shooting spree that left six people dead in tucson. >> thank you for your prayers and for giving me the time to recover. i have more work to do on my recovery, so i will do what is best for arizona. i will step down this week....
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if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and dipped in to the middle class and every year congress has to put it off. what's in this bill is a permanent revocation, a perm inconsistent fix, if you will, of the alternative men mum tax. that's astonishing. almost a trillion dollars cut from the baseline over ten years and appears that would be in the bill but put out the big caution here because nothing is voted on yet. there's no -- the ink is not dry. the signatures not on the document. if there's a deal, it is still not quite there yet. that big fight as we have been describing over those spending cuts, automatic spending cuts over ten years.
if that's part of it and obama looking for at least some infrastructure, some stimulus spending. are any of those components in this deal? >> i don't think the spending part is addressed. i could be wrong and i believe per child tax credit is, in fact, addressed and extended in some way, shape or form and heard the president say some of the incentives for green energy in place in the stimulus. as well. i'm not sure if i heard you mention the alternative minimum tax for the wealthy and...
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we're not just doing on the spending side anymore but clearly an obama optimistic about this deal. its chances and what it means for the white house. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." happy new year, everyone. "news nation" is next. >>> hello there, i'm t.j. holmes. president obama speaking just moments ago and putting the pressure on. with just ten hours until the country goes over that fiscal cliff, the president announcing that agreement to prevent tax hikes for all americans is in sight. but there is no deal just yet. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax
we're not just doing on the spending side anymore but clearly an obama optimistic about this deal. its chances and what it means for the white house. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." happy new year, everyone. "news nation" is next. >>> hello there, i'm t.j. holmes. president obama speaking just moments ago and putting the pressure on. with just ten hours until the country goes over that fiscal cliff, the president announcing that agreement...
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sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president blames congress for the problems in washington. a georgetown law professor says our problems start our constitution and announces we need a new form of government. i'm going to start with dee dee on this. i'm a big fan of hdtv. do we need to make over the constitution? >> let's get rid of the one thing holding us all together. washington is broken, obviously we have problems. is this guy crazy? i'll call him louie. dose want a monarchy. i think he should take a sabbatical to cuba or saudi arabia where there is no constitution. the constitution protects this guy. >> the professor argued why
sikh that was president obama sharing his thoughts on the debate over cutting federal spending. while there were reports of significant progress a short time ago. there is concern from republicans that they are giving the president the tax hikes he requested without getting spending breaks in return at a time when the federal deficits are running a trillion a year. the president talks about a balanced solution. we'll update as we hear more from the nation's capital. arthel: while the president...
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caller: i do not understand why president obama was doing at that rally. he needs to get in his car and go on down to the capital and try to figure out this mess. he himself and the democrats and republicans all equally created it. he is a democrat and he needs to take the leadership role and he has not done that. he does most to be the cheerleader and the champion. i am tired of the democrats'. host: ok, we will go to fort lauderdale, fla.. caller: i am very disappointed that the president has failed to be, has chosen to create an environment of blame, which is not good for anyone. we did not really have this class warfare before. there is all this talk, but nothing about the real issue which is the debt. i am more worried about the future generations, bankrupting the future generations. and by not dealing with entitlements, what are we going to do? and he always talks about how entitlements -- the cuts will not really be entitlement cuts for 10 years. there's a lot of scare factor here. there's a lot of misinformation caller:. -- there's a lot of misinfo
caller: i do not understand why president obama was doing at that rally. he needs to get in his car and go on down to the capital and try to figure out this mess. he himself and the democrats and republicans all equally created it. he is a democrat and he needs to take the leadership role and he has not done that. he does most to be the cheerleader and the champion. i am tired of the democrats'. host: ok, we will go to fort lauderdale, fla.. caller: i am very disappointed that the president has...
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and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government reform and ethics committees. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> what is your thought on what the president said on "meet the press?" >> i think he is absolutely right. what sets this apart, however, is that we do have presidential leadership on this issue. that is something that hasn't been there during past attempts to do something to curb gun violence. i am thrilled about that. i agree with him totally. i've said many times the public has to keep the drum beat going because unless there is a perceived cost to many of the politicians up here not much is likely to happen. we have to make sure the publi
and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government...
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president obama is modestly optimistic negotiations can prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. >> we're following the last-minute drama to avoid anything bad happening here. dana bash is covering the urgent talks in washington. ali velshi gives us the bottom li line. and alison kosik is on wall street watching how worried investors are reacting this hour. dana, we want to begin with you. we are hearing there might have been some progress overnight. >> a lot more optimism being expressed from sources in both parties. mitch mcconnell who the prime negotiator on the republican side just moments ago told reporters he spoke to the vice president, who is the prime negotiator now on the democrat side. so
president obama is modestly optimistic negotiations can prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no....
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from obama care, and the regulatory costs being imposed by epa and others. they may shut down fracking in this country which is one of the few positive things that's been happening over the past few years. >> if it does appear we're going to get increases, that you've long opposed, do you at least think you're going to get 72 hours? the other thing you've been arguing for? >> well, that i think is very important. if we can all look at this, the present house rules say 72 hours for the american people. the president of the united states said he wouldn't sign anything up for days as well. but he's broken that promise a bunch of times. i had argued it should be there for weeks so that you and all the folks in the media and the press and the american people could actually read the small print of any deal. the one biggest fear i have is that they're going to sell it as one thing, and when you look at it in the cold light of day, it's going to be even worse. that's what happened in '90 with the bush deal, that's what happened in '82 when they cheated reagan. it is
from obama care, and the regulatory costs being imposed by epa and others. they may shut down fracking in this country which is one of the few positive things that's been happening over the past few years. >> if it does appear we're going to get increases, that you've long opposed, do you at least think you're going to get 72 hours? the other thing you've been arguing for? >> well, that i think is very important. if we can all look at this, the present house rules say 72 hours for...
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heather: coming up president obama facing another key test as he approaches the start of his second term. the ongoing battle now turning to america's ports, as a strike deadline fast approaches. doug mcelway live from washington. doug, the complaints of longshoreman whose strike was temporarily averted last week is kind of a symbol of what is threatening unions all across the nation, right? >> it really is heather, the longshoreman have been threatened by automation. it takes one longshoreman to do a job in the early 1960s it took three men to do. as automation has increased the longshoreman's union demanded their job security be plea served. the shipping industry worked out a deal where longshoreman would be paid a fee based on the weight of every container this a ship carries. but the industry finds it prohibitive lee expensive. >> antiquated work rules we've seen in it automotive industry, in the steel industry where efficient will see and new productive machines can come into play and people get displaced by that. it's been a difficult thing but it's one of the things that in order t
heather: coming up president obama facing another key test as he approaches the start of his second term. the ongoing battle now turning to america's ports, as a strike deadline fast approaches. doug mcelway live from washington. doug, the complaints of longshoreman whose strike was temporarily averted last week is kind of a symbol of what is threatening unions all across the nation, right? >> it really is heather, the longshoreman have been threatened by automation. it takes one...
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entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington times." "leaders find agreement on farm bill." host: and from nbc news, moron hillary clinton, -- more on hillary clinton who remains hospitalized this morning after it blood clot had formed. the clot stems from a concussion she sustained several weeks ago. she is in new york president obama -- new york presbyterian hospital. her doctors will continue to assess her condition and will determine if any further action is required. she has not been seen in public in three weeks. was supposed to come back to office this week. next is ron from cincinnati, good morning. caller: i wish mrs. clinton well. th
entitlements that obama thinks -- he is spending $5 million of taxpayer money for a vacation. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes. why? what are the entitlements going to the politicians? they get a six-figure salary and everything is paid for. you try to get into the white house or one of the senator's place. they are heavily guarded with rifles. it is the democrats back door. you have to know what is in the bill. host: thank you for the call. this is from "the washington...
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and the democrats to spend while reining is in. >> i'm not sure how effectively they use it. 517 days ago and that's why we're in the mess we are in. >> i want to show you marginal tax rates around the world. highest tax rate people pay on the marginal money they earn. when we talk about increasing taxes, we talk about increasing it above a threshold. the united states is not the highest on the list. the united kingdom is on this list and this isn't all the countries out there. both canada and germany have higher marginal tax rates than the yits does. germany and canada have borrowing rates about the same as the united states and have higher home ownership rates. they have health care and education paid for. great life satisfaction in those places and strong economies. what's the argument if we increase the tax rates on the richest americans, we're somehow going to have economic catastrophe. >> ali, as you know when people pay taxes, they not only pay it at the individual level, but capital gains and other taxes, first you earn money and then you invest it in companies and if you take
and the democrats to spend while reining is in. >> i'm not sure how effectively they use it. 517 days ago and that's why we're in the mess we are in. >> i want to show you marginal tax rates around the world. highest tax rate people pay on the marginal money they earn. when we talk about increasing taxes, we talk about increasing it above a threshold. the united states is not the highest on the list. the united kingdom is on this list and this isn't all the countries out there. both...
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the house was elected to protect the united states of additional obama care spipe types of spending . from the perspective it is it a char aid. he wants to raise tax for people with over $200,000 . patti murray tipped the president's hand when she said it is okay to go off the fiscal cliff . we get credit when we cut taxing back to the level they were before the cliff . it is it a political issue for them to attain their goalings. >> dave: some suggest that the president will be okay to go off the fiscal cliff . the president doesn't want sequestitration to go in into affect. hope they work it out. thank you for joining us from dc. coming up. unbelievably video of a plane crashed on a busy highway . we now know what likely caused the deadly crash . go ahead and down that champagne in the new year's bash. but what you can do today to make sure you don't have a hang over tomorrow. may attention. there's the sign to the bullpen. here he comes. you wouldn't want your doctor doing your job, the pitch! whoa! so why are you doing his? only yr doctor can determine if your persistent heartburn
the house was elected to protect the united states of additional obama care spipe types of spending . from the perspective it is it a char aid. he wants to raise tax for people with over $200,000 . patti murray tipped the president's hand when she said it is okay to go off the fiscal cliff . we get credit when we cut taxing back to the level they were before the cliff . it is it a political issue for them to attain their goalings. >> dave: some suggest that the president will be okay to...
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that's not because he takes it and spends it. if we just leave it in -- >> trillion going to save on obama care in the first ten years and then the ten trillion in the next ten years and by adding 30 million new people? >> right. >> who aren't going to be paying -- >> the way the republican budget saved money frankly was they slashed medicaid. in other words, according to the congressional budget office, by the year 2020, they cut medicaid by one -- >> no. >> that is exactly what you're -- >> no it didn't. >> corker says when the president said he was cutting a trillion on "meet the press," corker says that we don't have a single -- that's not one aspect of that trillion dollars has been actually identified. is that -- >> that's absolutely true. and again the only thing -- >> -- more savings -- >> we're not going to fight and interest savings from money we're not going to borrow. that's smoke and mirrors. >> what if you're the public sitting at home right now. they're mad at both of you guys right now. they're mad at the presiden
that's not because he takes it and spends it. if we just leave it in -- >> trillion going to save on obama care in the first ten years and then the ten trillion in the next ten years and by adding 30 million new people? >> right. >> who aren't going to be paying -- >> the way the republican budget saved money frankly was they slashed medicaid. in other words, according to the congressional budget office, by the year 2020, they cut medicaid by one -- >> no. >>...
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and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be resolved here in the next few hours. >> too bad we only found out about this, you know, yesterday or the day before. 517 days they've had to work out the details and now we're talking about them all. brianna, we'll be busy today and may be ringing in the new year together. brianna keilar in washington. >>> a ball dropping in washington, a ball dropping in times square it looks like we'll go off the fiscal cliff. here's what it means to you. your paycheck will shrink. the payroll tax holiday is likely going away, for someone making $50,000 a year, it means $80 out of your paycheck. taxes will rise for 90% of americans by about 2,000 a year for those making between $40,000 and $60,000. making six figures? taxes go up by $13,000 if congress doesn't act. and the hit that families will take. four tax credits in danger of disappeared. four family tax credits, including earned income tax credit, close to $6,000 families for families making $50,000. american opportunit
and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be resolved here in the next few hours. >> too bad we only found out about this, you know, yesterday or the day before. 517 days they've had to work out the details and now we're talking about them all. brianna, we'll be busy today and may be ringing in the new year together. brianna keilar in washington. >>> a ball dropping in washington, a ball dropping in times square it looks like we'll go off the fiscal cliff. here's what it means to...
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if we do get downgraded because there's not enough spending. in the long-term, the economy will suffer, but republicans may be able to say we tried to stop this, this is obama's deal, now he owns it. >> but they need to do better with communicating that exact message, really, if you look at what's going on here, obama has been persistent and bullheaded saying, it's my way or no way and i think he can wants to go over the cliff to demonize and at the same time bullying the middle class. >> and in the short-term run, that it is inevitable that the democrats will say you guys, you republicans, you put us offer the cliff because you were defending your rich millionaire friends, it's inevitable they will say that and that's a winning political line in the short-run. and over that, however, and you ask where is the leadership from this president, where is it? >> and here, stuart. >> doesn't he agree with you. >> americans with funny accent. let me ask you this question, explain to me and to the american people out there right now why you need to prot
if we do get downgraded because there's not enough spending. in the long-term, the economy will suffer, but republicans may be able to say we tried to stop this, this is obama's deal, now he owns it. >> but they need to do better with communicating that exact message, really, if you look at what's going on here, obama has been persistent and bullheaded saying, it's my way or no way and i think he can wants to go over the cliff to demonize and at the same time bullying the middle class....
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about spending and cutting. about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him
about spending and cutting. about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found...
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about spending and cutting. about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! this season, discover aleve. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mis
about spending and cutting. about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches...
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you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jersey and new york they want more spending. you know, people -- if you ask them they want government pending they say no. do you want to cut medicare? no, not that. how about firefighters? people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very important. there are things that we need for the quality of our life. good transporta
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i listened to the gentleman who said president obama won the election so he should get his way, but the republicans say, look, we won the house. i do want to see a deal done. and by the way, i don't want to see taxes go up, ali. you know that. i think it's bad for the economy -- >> but you also generally agree if there was going to be a deal, they're going to go up on some people. >> yeah. look, taxes are probably going to go up on the rich because president obama did -- you know, he went around the country saying if he was re-elected, that's what he would do. but, you know, as i told you many times, even if we don't get a deal here in the next 24 hours, this is not thelma and louise. this is a slope, not a cliff that's going to cause a crash in the economy. i do think it looks bad for the country. it's beneath us to go into this new year not knowing what the tax code is going to look like, what kind of spending cuts will go in. this is politics at its very lowest. >> let's talk about a week ago one of the things that you and i both thought shall i thought it was a bit cynical that john
i listened to the gentleman who said president obama won the election so he should get his way, but the republicans say, look, we won the house. i do want to see a deal done. and by the way, i don't want to see taxes go up, ali. you know that. i think it's bad for the economy -- >> but you also generally agree if there was going to be a deal, they're going to go up on some people. >> yeah. look, taxes are probably going to go up on the rich because president obama did -- you know,...
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the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this scenario, married with no children under the age of 65. if a couple in that instance is making about $57,000 a year, then according to the calculations, that couple would end up spending $2,262 more on taxes. that couple is high income earning, $106,000 for the income between the two of them, you're looking at more than $4,200 extra in taxes. a good example there of what we're looking at. i want to show you another example. there's something that might surprise you in the middle of this next one. i want to go to these numbers fast. if this is a couple that's married and has two you
the average family will end up spending $2,000 more if the fiscal cliff is not averted. let me show you something. you can find out how it would impact you directly by using this. there's a lot of numbers you have to plug in to make sense of it. obviously it can't be exact, it can't be precise, it can't predict the future, but i want to show you some examples we have pulled out. let's go to the graphic here that has a few of the examples we're showing you here. it would take, for example, this...
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president obama initially suggested $250,000 or above should see an increase. that number will probably be maybe 400,000, 500 thousands, but republicans want to see spending cuts. today they talked about changing the way social security benefits would be administered over time and save money, entitlement reform. that's off the table so republicans are saying where are we going off spending cuts? there's a hangup there. democrats on the other hand looking for a way to keep taxes for high for the higher income earners. instead of $400,000 they would like to lower that to $250,000 or above, so there's a sticking point on taxes and spending. but as you said, all eyes should be on the senate. the senate needs to pass a bill and it's run by democrats. they're really fighting amongst themself now to agree on a measure they can pass. literally by tomorrow, by new year's eve, in order to send something to the house in time to avert the fiscal cliff. >> you're the expert on this. you work on the hill every day. procedurally we've gotten past the point to get anything pas
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president obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassis
president obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the...
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president obama was a guest on "meet the press." let's listen. >> 75% of the congressmen come from gerrymandered districts in which they are bullet proof. they don't go home and have to prove their case because they have a choir back home. >> i think it has been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leading mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> in a statement house speaker john boehner shot back writing americans electedt president obama to lead, not to cast blame. the president's comments today are ironic as a current theme of negotiations is an unwillingness to agree to anything that would required him to stand up to his own party. does it look like the president and speaker are closer to mending fences? >> it doesn't. the president i think was seen by both parties in some respects as a bit of a pushover during the debate about the debt ceiling and frankly going back two years exactly now around extending the bush tax
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the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the conversation and dealing with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he
the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people...